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How to organise FEGAT-Championships in the future...?

 How to organise FEGAT-Championships in the future...?

How to organise Championships in the future...?

FEGAT counts 14 member-countries:

  1. Austria
  2. Belgium
  3. Czech. Rep.
  4. Denmark
  5. Finland
  6. Germany
  7. Holland
  8. Hungary
  9. Norway
  10. Russia
  11. Sweden
  12. Switzerland
  13. Ukraine
  14. France


This means that we have to organise in the near future FEGAT European Championships with 18! participants.

However, in most countries a maximum of 12 - 14 starters can participate in a race!

To organise eliminations in different areas is difficult and very expensive!

What is your opinion about this matter?
We are very happy for every good idea...







Wie sollen in Zukunft FEGAT Meisterschaften organisiert werden...?

Die FEGAT zählt momentan 14 Mitgliedsländer:



  1. Austria
  2. Belgium
  3. Czech. Rep.
  4. Denmark
  5. Finland
  6. Germany
  7. Holland
  8. Hungary
  9. Norway
  10. Russia
  11. Sweden
  12. Switzerland
  13. Ukraine
  14. France




Das heisst dass wir in naher Zukunft FEGAT Europameisterschaften mit 18! Teilnehmern organisieren müssen.

In den meisten Ländern können aber im Maximum 12 - 14 Starter an einem Rennen teilnehmen!

Qualifikationsrennen zu organisieren ist sehr schwierig und sowohl finanziell als auch organisatorisch kaum zu bewältigen.

Was ist Eure Meinung zu diesem nicht ganz einfachen Thema...?
Wir sind sehr dankbar für konstruktive Anregungen und mögliche/machbare Lösungen...

 Re: How to organise FEGAT-Championships in the future...?

@admin

after careful consideration...
i fall in desperation...  hm... ähm... well...
at any rate  time will tell 

good luck!
- enneraV -


 Re: How to organise FEGAT-Championships in the future...?







Dear trotting fans

 

It seems that we have a big club in Europe; Here is
how I see it. If you have 18 countries and each country must participate  5
races. You need 90 horses !!  or 5 x 18 drives. You can split the races and
have 7 race x  11 horses + 1 race x 13 horses = 90 .  Or 9 x 10 horses
= 90. You can also make the horses race 2 times on the same day. As long as you
have 90 drives for the amateurs; Of course, we also know that it is not easy and
a better way should be to have only 12 or 14 countries participating. Maybe
there is a way to give semi finals in 2 different countries.with 9 participant
only   and finals in another country on a later date in the year with the 5
best of the semi finals ?That would be really beautifull and fair for everybody.
The only problem would be the cost of travelling 2 times in the same year
for the EC. Maybe FEGAT could sponsor a little bit in that matter ?  
Anyway, each country that wants to organise must take his responsability and try
to do the best.

 

Marc De Soete

Belgian Amateur Club

 Re: How to organise FEGAT-Championships in the future...?

Hello horselovers!

To organize a championship with 18 members and 12 starting horses in each race and giving every driver a chance to start 4 times you need 18 x 4 = 72 horses. If only 12 horses can start in each race it will take 72 : 12 = 6 races. That must be the most "fair" way to organize - if you start to make semifinals or some other way to pick up fewer participating countries FEGAT will loose a lot of its attractiveness! The possibility for drivers and officials to meet with all other members is important. Maybe there should be a close look at FEGAT EUROPE CUP in the future as it will be a lot to organize although this arrangement only takes place every second year.

thinks Indian chief



 Re: How to organise FEGAT-Championships in the future...?

Was die 18 Teilnehmer einer EM angeht, so
stimme ich überein, dass dies in einer Veranstaltung nicht durchzuführen ist. />



Also müsste man – beispielsweise 4
bis 6 Wochen vor einer EM 2 Ausscheidung a 9 Fahrern in 2 verschiedenen Ländern
durchführen. Je nach Größe der Finalbahn qualifizieren sich dann 2 mal 5 oder 6
Fahrer für das Finale. Was das Ganze zwar noch aufwändiger macht, aber
sportlich gesehen eher fair ist. Denn wenn man auf einer Veranstaltung 18
Fahrer unterbringen will, müsste man mit Vorläufen und Halbfinale arbeiten, was
zur Folge hätte, das manche am 2. Tag zuschauen müssten, was nicht aktzeptabel wäre. />





  Wie soll es denn dieses Jahr in Salzburg
gehen?  

 Re: How to organise FEGAT-Championships in the future...?


Voraussichtlich so wie "Marc de Soete" und "Indian chief" das etwas weiter oben im Forum beschrieben haben...

Als Beispiel hier der "Idealfall" für Salzburg:

16 Nationen sind voraussichtlich am Start:
Austria - Belgium - Czech. Rep. - Denmark - Finland - Germany - Holland - Hungary - Norway - Russia - Sweden - Switzerland - Ukraine - France - Spain - Italy
Werden 8 Rennen mit je 12 Startern durchgeführt braucht es = 96 Pferde
somit könnte jeder Teilnehmer 6 x starten! 6 x 16 Teilnehmer = 96 Starts
(Dieses System ist zudem im Regelwerk der FEGAT auch so beschrieben!)

Presumably as “Marc de Soete” and “Indian chief” described in the forum above…
As example here the “ideal case” for Salzburg:
16 nations are at the start in Salzburg: Austria - Belgium - Czech. Rep. - Denmark - Finland - Germany - Holland - Hungary - Norway - Russia - Sweden - Switzerland - Ukraine - France - Spain - Italy
8 races with 12 starters needs = 96 horses
Each participant could start 6 times 
6 times 16 participants = 96 starts
(This system is in such a way also described in the rules of the FEGAT!)
 
F.E.G.A.T. - General secretary
Fredy Moder